Naming and shaming is the point of this post.

This is the Cambridge University music graduate who believes, in my opinion of what he is saying, that we bring homophobia upon ourselves: He uses the user name ‘yesihavelegs’ on www.kagoul.com . He is 31 years old and describes himself as ‘bisexual’. He describes himself as: “Volatile and usually pissed off Cambridge University music graduate with bad taste but worse than that, I’m posh, lacking in tact and generally awkward. ” and goes on to say: “Reading this you may feel you won’t/don’t like me but I can’t help it if you’ve got no stamina, or you’re an idiot. I like everyone, apart from those who make me want to cover them with vomit. “

This is the thread in question so you may judge for yourself whether this guy is making an attack on me or sticking to the subject matter:

A quick search for ‘batty boy’ brings up quite a selection on Youtube, many are from the UK.

If ever some of the younger guys need to be shown why some of the older guys still campaign for equality and that we don’t yet have it, go take a look.

There is some blatant homophobia going on there. The sort of thing that were it any other minority group would not be tolerated.

If you don’t want to see it, don’t search for it.

“Ooh, let’s see if there’s any batty boy videos on youtube. That’ll be fun”.

No, it won’t.

yesihavelegs: If you don’t want to see it, don’t search for it.

Rather than treat me like an idiot with that comment consider the reason why I searched for it. Assumption and comments like that cause bad feeling between people.

A few weeks ago I was collecting my daughter from secondary school, she’s 15. In the school car park a group of year 9 lads (about 14 years old) started hurling homophobic abuse. I’d heard the term ‘batty boy’ before but never really examined where it came from and how widely it was used. That’s why I searched youtube.

I don’t make the habit of randomly looking for homophobia.

yesihavelegs … what are you suggesting? It could be any number of things but it seems to me the general thrust of what you are saying is that I should keep a very low profile, pretend I am straight?

At the time this incident occurred I was driving a rather common French car. I had not been on TV in 8 years so those boys would have been 6 when it was on. I do not fly the rainbow flag above my house or have rainbow stickers on my car.

I am openly gay which, when I last checked, was not a crime. I have a boyfriend, we’ve been together 2 years, also not a crime.

It seems to me, when you are not openly insulting me by calling me an idiot (shame on you) you are telling me how to live my life ignoring the fact that it is the homophobic people amongst us who are in the wrong, not us for being gay. This is not the first time I have heard from another gay man that I have brought the homophobia upon myself and that attitude sickens me and you should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting it.

Any utter bastard who says I do not look after my kids well and keep them safe needs sorting out mentally. No one who knows me would ever think it, the reality is just the opposite.

Perhaps yesihavelegs (but little common sense) you should consider that not everyone lives in your fortunate little world and that you could just maybe engage brain before writing stuff on here or, if you are incapable of thinking beyond your limited knowledge of the world, you could ask someone who has lived a little before showing yourself up as a complete an utter arsehole of a person.

I raised a perfectly valid point about homophobia n this country and you turned it around as a personal attack against me. If ever we needed an example of why this site doesn’t work we need look no further than the example you have shown on this thread.

You don’t get my point, do you.

I’m not personally attacking you, that’s the point. I’m expressing what I THINK and not not know, of your circumstances.

I can’t help it if you lay all your cards on the table and expect people to say “Aw, poor chap”.

If you don’t want people’s opinions, don’t ask for them.

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So, there you have it, I shall let you be the judge of who said what and what it meant!

Naming and shaming is the point of this post.

This is the Cambridge University music graduate who believes, in my opinion of what he is saying, that we bring homophobia upon ourselves: He uses the user name ‘yesihavelegs’ on www.kagoul.com . He is 31 years old and describes himself as ‘bisexual’. He describes himself as: “Volatile and usually pissed off Cambridge University music graduate with bad taste but worse than that, I’m posh, lacking in tact and generally awkward. ” and goes on to say: “Reading this you may feel you won’t/don’t like me but I can’t help it if you’ve got no stamina, or you’re an idiot. I like everyone, apart from those who make me want to cover them with vomit. “

This is the thread in question so you may judge for yourself whether this guy is making an attack on me or sticking to the subject matter:

A quick search for ‘batty boy’ brings up quite a selection on Youtube, many are from the UK.

If ever some of the younger guys need to be shown why some of the older guys still campaign for equality and that we don’t yet have it, go take a look.

There is some blatant homophobia going on there. The sort of thing that were it any other minority group would not be tolerated.

If you don’t want to see it, don’t search for it.

“Ooh, let’s see if there’s any batty boy videos on youtube. That’ll be fun”.

No, it won’t.

yesihavelegs: If you don’t want to see it, don’t search for it.

Rather than treat me like an idiot with that comment consider the reason why I searched for it. Assumption and comments like that cause bad feeling between people.

A few weeks ago I was collecting my daughter from secondary school, she’s 15. In the school car park a group of year 9 lads (about 14 years old) started hurling homophobic abuse. I’d heard the term ‘batty boy’ before but never really examined where it came from and how widely it was used. That’s why I searched youtube.

I don’t make the habit of randomly looking for homophobia.

yesihavelegs … what are you suggesting? It could be any number of things but it seems to me the general thrust of what you are saying is that I should keep a very low profile, pretend I am straight?

At the time this incident occurred I was driving a rather common French car. I had not been on TV in 8 years so those boys would have been 6 when it was on. I do not fly the rainbow flag above my house or have rainbow stickers on my car.

I am openly gay which, when I last checked, was not a crime. I have a boyfriend, we’ve been together 2 years, also not a crime.

It seems to me, when you are not openly insulting me by calling me an idiot (shame on you) you are telling me how to live my life ignoring the fact that it is the homophobic people amongst us who are in the wrong, not us for being gay. This is not the first time I have heard from another gay man that I have brought the homophobia upon myself and that attitude sickens me and you should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting it.

Any utter bastard who says I do not look after my kids well and keep them safe needs sorting out mentally. No one who knows me would ever think it, the reality is just the opposite.

Perhaps yesihavelegs (but little common sense) you should consider that not everyone lives in your fortunate little world and that you could just maybe engage brain before writing stuff on here or, if you are incapable of thinking beyond your limited knowledge of the world, you could ask someone who has lived a little before showing yourself up as a complete an utter arsehole of a person.

I raised a perfectly valid point about homophobia n this country and you turned it around as a personal attack against me. If ever we needed an example of why this site doesn’t work we need look no further than the example you have shown on this thread.

You don’t get my point, do you.

I’m not personally attacking you, that’s the point. I’m expressing what I THINK and not not know, of your circumstances.

I can’t help it if you lay all your cards on the table and expect people to say “Aw, poor chap”.

If you don’t want people’s opinions, don’t ask for them.

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So, there you have it, I shall let you be the judge of who said what and what it meant!

I had been looking forward to going to a friends BBQ all week yet I woke up today feeling dreadful. It has to be a bug of some kind and it may well be gone by tomorrow but it has totally screwed up my plans for today. On the plus side, the kids were able to go as it is only a short walk away.

Last night I showed Nick a youtube video of how much homophobia still exists and is acceptable within the UK right now. It was a follow on from the incident at Daisy’s school when they gang of lads started hurling homophobic abuse at me.One of the phrases they used was ‘batty boy’ which I had heard before, several years before when we had the troubles at the other place but didn’t fully understand why it was so common in the UK or if indeed it was commonly used. Looking at youtube showed me that it is positively sanctioned in the UK and a totally acceptable term to use and not even just by black people either from where the use originated.

Still feeling incenced by the youtube thing I posted a thread about it on Kagoul.com hoping that someone there may pick it up and also make a complait against youtube for their promotion of homophobia in this country. On the contrary, one absolute idiot on there took the opportunity not to attack the homophobic attitude but me for being openly gay and a parent. He said I was a complete idiot for being gay and having kids and that I should keep a very low profile, in short, pretend to be straight.

What a total tosser that guy is! This has been only the second time in my life a gay man has said bluntly to me that homophobic attacks against me are somehow my own doing. How short sighted and ignorant that attitude is. Only gay men could reach this conclusion and it is because they can that we still have so many problems. What if the country took the attitude that black people brought racism upon themselves and should keep a low profile? It’s a crazy notion that we should have to accept prejudice as normal and minority groups are to blame for their own problems. I so hope that the person in question on that website very soon becomes the victim of homophobia in the most graphic way and then, I trust, he will look at himself and his lifestyle ‘choice’ and make no attempt to blame the guys who attack him but instead go back in the closet and lead a very quiet existance for the rest of his life … what a totally stupid attitude to take.

On a less serious note … the weather is absolute shit like we are already easing into winter. I find it very difficult to plan ahead when something as simple as rain can ruin those plans.

Back work on Monday, I so hope this bug has gone by then, I enjoy it too much to stay at home.

I had been looking forward to going to a friends BBQ all week yet I woke up today feeling dreadful. It has to be a bug of some kind and it may well be gone by tomorrow but it has totally screwed up my plans for today. On the plus side, the kids were able to go as it is only a short walk away.

Last night I showed Nick a youtube video of how much homophobia still exists and is acceptable within the UK right now. It was a follow on from the incident at Daisy’s school when they gang of lads started hurling homophobic abuse at me.One of the phrases they used was ‘batty boy’ which I had heard before, several years before when we had the troubles at the other place but didn’t fully understand why it was so common in the UK or if indeed it was commonly used. Looking at youtube showed me that it is positively sanctioned in the UK and a totally acceptable term to use and not even just by black people either from where the use originated.

Still feeling incenced by the youtube thing I posted a thread about it on Kagoul.com hoping that someone there may pick it up and also make a complait against youtube for their promotion of homophobia in this country. On the contrary, one absolute idiot on there took the opportunity not to attack the homophobic attitude but me for being openly gay and a parent. He said I was a complete idiot for being gay and having kids and that I should keep a very low profile, in short, pretend to be straight.

What a total tosser that guy is! This has been only the second time in my life a gay man has said bluntly to me that homophobic attacks against me are somehow my own doing. How short sighted and ignorant that attitude is. Only gay men could reach this conclusion and it is because they can that we still have so many problems. What if the country took the attitude that black people brought racism upon themselves and should keep a low profile? It’s a crazy notion that we should have to accept prejudice as normal and minority groups are to blame for their own problems. I so hope that the person in question on that website very soon becomes the victim of homophobia in the most graphic way and then, I trust, he will look at himself and his lifestyle ‘choice’ and make no attempt to blame the guys who attack him but instead go back in the closet and lead a very quiet existance for the rest of his life … what a totally stupid attitude to take.

On a less serious note … the weather is absolute shit like we are already easing into winter. I find it very difficult to plan ahead when something as simple as rain can ruin those plans.

Back work on Monday, I so hope this bug has gone by then, I enjoy it too much to stay at home.